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Let's go Sailing!; Because shipping. GEDDIT?
Topic Started: Jun 26 2016, 10:30 PM (1,892 Views)
Floowey
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That's the dedication a ship should be about! Isaac was just the friendzoned guy taking care of the roof, while Garret was the one who got the action!
Edited by Floowey, Jun 28 2016, 09:38 PM.
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#HarlyforHarly20Harly

To be fair, there are two types of shippers: Those who ship two characters (or three, one and their roof, etc) because they see chemistry in their canon interactions and think that the creators of the content intend for them to be together, and those who just see potential chemistry in two characters based on their personalities. Basically, do you like them because they are hitting it off, or because you think that they really would if given the chance? Of course, if you are the second kind of shipper, it doesn't actually matter if the two characters have met or not.
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Huh... I don't really ship, so that was a nice thing to put into perspective.
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I'm more of the first type of Shipper, although I do occasionally do the second type.
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First is the only way I'll do it, but I rarely do, huh.
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I tend to be the first type, but as I said I'm not terribly into shipping in the first place.
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Seems we're all the first type, huh.

Except Garet x Roof. MMMMMMMMMMMMM...
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I'm a non-shipper, or a matter-of-fact shipper. Basically, I don't ship things usually and don't really see much of an appeal to it, but if canon states two characters are a thing, it's fact, so I can't really not ship them as they are a ship by word of god.

@Harly I've seen a third type of shipper, those who don't really seem to care about the characters and "ship" them because they found good quality smut of it.
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Yeah, I've seen a lot of people ship characters just for the aesthetic. But I've also seen people who are a combination of all three. On an old forum I went to, you couldn't say anything about Dusk without potentially pissing everyone off.

But I used to be really big on GS-shipping, myself. Mistshipping (IvanxMia) was always my favorite, but eventually switched to Purpleshipping (IvanxFeizhi).
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According to http://goldensunwiki.net/wiki/Shipping , there are no yuri ships for Himi. I find this lack of yuri to be criminally disturbing. It must be fixed.
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MatthewxHimi; These two were staple characters in my fight against the tougher foes. Even if everyone else fell they could focus on sustaining each other while reviving the other allies and attacking the enemy. They would definitely have time to know each other during the adventure. The constant monster fights would work in Matthew's favor since he isn't much of a talker and seems to show his emotions better through action... or emoticons.
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Jun 28 2016, 06:34 PM
True, but female characters actually require some kind of evidence, like conversations and stuff. I dunno why, but gay shipping always ticked me off just because the only "evidence" they ever need is just "well, they're really good friends."

Like, why do people ship Lan and Dex without any reason, but Yai and Mayl are completely untouched, huh?
I do have a bit of a theory. The reason why female slash ships go virtually untouched/needing evidence to justify shipping them is because a piece of media would lack either a large female cast, a good sized LGBT fan base, or a confirmed/heavily implied LGBT main cast member, or a combination of the three. Because honestly in my experiences having just one of those three things tend to make f/f ships thrive and you get pairings that don't need any evidence. With Golden Sun ... yeah it has a load of crack pairings but barely any f/f ships and none of them are no where near as popular as any of the other ships (with the most popular one probably being Karis/Sveta) and well it does lack one of these three things.


As for personal ships yeah I was a mud shipper and flame shipper back in the day. Mostly because Garet wouldn't shut up about Jenna. Now I don't really care that much any more with probably the only thing I would consider an OTP would be lighthouseshipping, swampshipping or zephyrshipping.
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If we're here for ships, then

Alex / the traitor shellcore from Episode 2 (Richard) is my go-to Golden Sun ship (and Alex may just be a pile of disguises for whatever killed the original Alex which is why his behavior change isn't explained). Flint may or may not be a seductive cheating-inducer for bonus WTF points.

Jenna/Isaac but it's a bit more childish bffs crushing and also Jenna is a cosmic space kraken archailect and Isaac is a smaller and less powerful cosmic space kraken archailect of a different germ-line than Jenna's so he barely understands her in any meaningful way beyond when they're both using avatarbots at intentionally human-scale avatar processing.

Mia is a psycho under all that mess: at best, she could perhaps one day settle down with a particularly fetching man of great personality either submissive but dogged, or a dominant friend forged in lots of shared combat and at least sometimes with each other, but it's unlikely overall she would ever really stop to find love except in perhaps as a why-not toying game. Giant space kraken principle applies. Adepts reproduce by binary fission: Rief and Nowell are merely subordinate avatars to the central Mia in situations where its standard emotional programming is inappropriate: Nowell experiences love more (hence chasing after Piers despite being centuries out of his age range), Rief provides a male identifying perspective, relatively intellectual yet reserved behavior, and...uh.....lacks Mia's characteristic bloodthirst?

Garet: ...I consider Garet/Isaac a more actually-romantically-serious thing than Isaac/Jenna. Both as fanon archailects on the same scale of things, and as ordinary people in Dark Dawn who happen to live together and whatnot. Tyrell's mother was either an old fling who has decided Garet was ultimately not right for her or merely a surrogate. It may well be Jenna and the triangle is complete, with Tyrell and Matthew being half-siblings, ahahaha.wav. Also Garet/Wise One

Ivan: Too focused on engineering work for things like planes and amusement parks. Personally too busy for romance, but is probably a bisexual. Pair spare with whatever appropriate and doesn't mind having their mind read. He and the green-haired woman whose water you freeze to get a djinn (yes, seriously, I'm not kidding, I ship them with outcomes in mind) had Karis in a spur of the moment relationship that lost its spark because both of them wanted to go back to work with whatever they did. The two are now just friends since Karis is old enough to take care of herself, but it is quite clear they are free to see other people if their jobs slow down, but it is also unlikely Karis will have a half-sibling even with Ivan's extended lifespan because it is still unlikely they will do that much meeting of people seeking love. Karis takes heavily after her mother, which is partly why she hasn't developed the ability to read minds (it would be possible but would take considerable effort rather than the innate talent of Ivan and Sheba and Sveta and whoever).

Sheba: Sex-ignoring moon goddess. Mildly elitist and has a slight distaste for cross-class relationships because she suspects them of being gold diggers. Unlikely to find love due to high standards romantically and relatively low interest in doing it. Lesbian. Probably paired with an offscreen queen of high position and wealth if she must, but unlikely: 'queen of Sheba' jokes are inevitable.

Piers/Nowell, but Piers is bisexual and keeps going after men on the side. Nowell is actually relatively openly approving about this because she's just a derivative of an archailect-mind, the absolute fujoshi. Mildly voyeuristic.

Felix: Too noncommital for relationships? Will one-night stand with any man or woman you set the situation up for but is really not the lasting relationship type without some serious freedom. Has a thing for Proxians, but rarely does it matter since many of the people of Prox have essentially had him by hostages for a long while. ...??Tentatively Felix/Agatio?? but only after Agatio died/near-died at Mars and either way comes back for meme 'okay stupid stuff happened we're relatively even now and I'm willing to respect that' headcanons. Saturos is associated too directly with the family issues to even think about, so the similarities are a mild turn-off but because the level of personality is different (talky-strong vs nottalky-strong) it gets through rather than being traumatic on its own.

Saturos and Menardi: Maybe Saturos/Menardi. There's some flirting going on but they never had the chance to get serious before they got thrown in a lighthouse, and in all their traipsing about random worlds together they usually have more serious problems than romance to ever get serious.

Karst: Clan Innocentes with regards to matters of love: probably never really gotten too far with any relationship but it was by lack of time, candidates, and being in...the military or something...instead of heartbreak. Honestly I could see her with Sheba for some reason as raging women of sass and class? She and Agatio are friends enough that even as monsters they would willfully fuse, but they are platonic friends and friends not lovers.

Blados/Chalis: Only boss pair I really ship.

Kraden/Wise One: ...*smiles guiltily while sweating*
Edited by Nedben, Apr 25 2018, 09:02 PM.
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NOX
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Hey, and there I was going for a half serious post...
But, due to the one above, I'm scrapping it for serious seriousness.

Shipping is basically greatly related to one's own view of the isolated characters.
My laconic views on each playable party member :
There is also Feizhi, that looks to me like a more naive version of Mia...

Ok, it's starting to be long already.
So, yes, depending on your feeling about the character, the ships that make sense to you will change.

What is important to note is that ship representation in the fandom does not reflect the real popularity of it with players.
(Some ships just feel right with nothing special to create from.)

For instance, if I was to propose a F/F ship, I would go with Himi/Hou-ju or Karis/Nowell.
But, what can we add to this concept ? Not much.
This may also be why there is less creative things including F/F couples.
(They don't add anything to the concept, for people that like it.)


My main opinion is this :
"Popular ship" is different from "Ship you can find things on".

Here is an example :
I really like Mia/Ivan as a happy couple, living in Imil, without worries.
There is not a lot of thing to do from that, just fluffy saturday evenings, near the chimney, in a calm Winter night.

OK, so here is my GS1&2 ship setup (ignoring DD canon) :
Felix/Sheba, Ivan/Mia, Garet/Jenna, Isaac/Feizhi
I still find understandable any other ship.
It's just that those, above, are more tuned to my feel on life, I guess.

Now, here are my "feel-right" ships, for the DD cast :
Matthew/Sveta, Tyrell/Karis, Himi/Eoleo, Himi/Rief, Sveta/Tyrell.

Just for fun :
Crazy things I think might be interesting to creatively explore :
Amiti/Eoleo (standard crazy) and Amiti/Ryu-Kou (less-standard crazy)

If we're going for interesting interaction, but friendly ones :
We have Volecheck and Emperor Unan,
as well as Kraden and Hou Zan! (Epic wit talks ahoy!)


You may not believe how much I have studied all of these ships...
But, I did, so I guess that toying with ships is fun.
And, that is why we can write overly long posts, in this thread.

In a word, favorite shippings reflect the way we feel about life and people interactions.
Any ship can be valid, as long as it's not an unhealthy one.
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Has anyone been in a situation where you or virtually anyone for that matter don't ship a thing yet you have the perfect name for said ship?
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