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| Patient Zero; Disease and Illnesses of an Alchemical Nature | |
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| Topic Started: May 21 2015, 10:05 PM (946 Views) | |
| WitchRolina | May 21 2015, 10:05 PM Post #1 |
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So I was listening to Radio Lab today (an older episode - I just found out about this podcast), and heard their episode on Patient Zero. This made me think - in worlds were magic or similar forces (such as GS's Alchemy) exist, wouldn't it make sense that diseases not only form from viruses and bacteria, but of elemental sources as well? Think about it - if we assume that people and creatures are beings mainly of matter with some arcane/alchemical substance within them, it would make sense then that elemental entities would be the opposite - primarily arcane/alchemical life sources with only enough matter to give them structure. This would mean that it's quite possible that an arcane equivalent to viruses, bacteria, fungi, and other parasites exist. So, in the interest of morbid curiosity, what purely alchemical/psynergetic illnesses do you think might exist in Weyard, and what would cause them? |
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| Catman | May 21 2015, 10:07 PM Post #2 |
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I'd call it a form of Necromancy |
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| WitchRolina | May 21 2015, 10:16 PM Post #3 |
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It? There's a ton of different diseases out there. You're going to have to be more specific. Furthermore... there's no actual evidence that necromancy in the traditional sense we know of even exists in GS (though I wouldn't be surprised if it was). |
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| Diego, the mentor | May 21 2015, 10:18 PM Post #4 |
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Mars Fever; people in the vecinity of areas with strong mars influence can get sick with a raise in body temperature and make the patient delude and have erratic behaviour, can be cured with a long bath in water created by psynergy. Non contagious but possibly lethal |
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| Sagie | May 21 2015, 10:54 PM Post #5 |
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Rose in PoO has one. I don't remember how much detail I went into in the profile. The gist of it is that the physical aspect of her mind keeps rejecting her Psynergy. Whenever she is stressed or uses her powers too much, it just sort of all explodes in the form of her visions. It will eventually kill her, though it's presumed Hermes Water could cure her. |
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| WitchRolina | May 21 2015, 11:00 PM Post #6 |
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Oh, I hadn't though of genetic and physiological disorders! That's a pretty cool idea. |
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| cipher | May 22 2015, 01:14 AM Post #7 |
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Over time I'm sure parasites would evolve that could feed off of an adept's psynergy as a food source. Probably some microscopic bacteria/fungus. |
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| WitchRolina | May 22 2015, 02:59 AM Post #8 |
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I'm imagining a parasite as well. Think something similar to those worm parasites you hear about in 3rd world countries. However, unlike normal worms, these are closer related to djinn - basically, they're almost purely made up of alchemical energies. These worms would be non-gendered, instead multiplying through division. They'd mutate at a rapid rate, acting like immune-deficiency viruses in that regard. This would allow them both genetic (I guess? Whatever the elemental version of that would be) diversity as well as a rate of growth akin to real world worm parasites, allowing the creature the typical evolutionary advantages. The worm wouldn't feed off of nutrients or tissues, but rather the person's psynergy. Normally, it's not something they'd notice... until they started casting spells. Then they'd see that their psynergy isn't recovering like it should. The energy they expend isn't coming back. The more they have to use it, the more fatigued they'd feel, until eventually that starts to catch up to them. With their innate recovery dampened, they start to feel their energy draining from them, until eventually they fall into a coma, and die. The spread of these creatures is probably based on pests such as mosquitoes. Though they can't drink up full grown worms, the newly divided worms would be transferred to the mosquito as its carrier, to be sent into the nest host that the mosquito feeds upon. It's for that very reason that elemental creatures such as djinn aren't affected - because the carrier is a matter-based lifeform that feeds on blood, it can only be transmitted to creatures the carrier feeds upon. |
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| Artisan | May 22 2015, 03:29 AM Post #9 |
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Sol Radiation Poisoning; Caused by overexposure to concentrated sol energy. Symptoms include spontaneous optimism and golden fur. Some victims have reported developing sol borne powers. Purple Aura Virus; A virus spread to monsters during a rare eclipse. Those afflicted by it have shown increased aggression as well as a love for music. Dream Leaf Poisoning: Caused by the consumption, or prolonged exposure, to rotten dream leaves. Symptoms include frequent nightmares and restlessness. Edited by Artisan, May 22 2015, 03:30 AM.
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| Nikki | May 22 2015, 05:20 AM Post #10 |
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Alchemy is the power that combines the four elements, and technically people are made of four elements, so... ♦ Analchemia ♦ Also known as "Alchemy decay", or simply, "decay". A disease of unknown origin which causes the body of a person to slowly decay as the elements that constitute their body just separate from each other. Syntoms include skin peeling, loss of hair, and dehydration. In later stages, full sections of the skin and flesh simply fall and disintegrate, internal bleeding and bone fractures are produced. The patient has difficulties to breathe, presents strong amnesia, hypothermia and massive dehydration. Finally, it reaches a point where the whole body disintegrates all of a sudden. The whole process can last several weeks, even months. There is no known cure, although the life of the person can be prolonged several years with constant use of healing spells and absolute rest. Edited by Nikki, May 22 2015, 06:57 AM.
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| Catman | May 22 2015, 06:10 AM Post #11 |
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Viruses kill cells and then use them like undead slaves. Psnergy used in such a way would be extremely difficult to survive, or even avoid in the first place. Killing someone this way would also preserve the body, giving you a much stronger minion, rather than a mere weakling zombie or skeleton. |
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| Harly | May 22 2015, 09:54 PM Post #12 |
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I don't see how psynergy draining would kill someone. The vast majority of the human population is not made of adepts - how can they survive without psynergy if an adept couldn't? Plus, having 0 pp doesn't kill you in the games either. |
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| WitchRolina | May 22 2015, 10:01 PM Post #13 |
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They DO have psynergy. Proof of this is seen in colosso, as the warriors can, in fact, score critical hits on you. As Garet pointed out and Ivan confirmed, that is a form of passive psynergy. What they cannot do is actively channel the elements. What's more, the JP name for it, Energy, is a great way to explain it. Imagine if your body just couldn't produce energy. That each time you got that burst of adrenaline to keep you moving forward, it was forever lost. THAT. In a world full of magic, everyone has it. It's part of how physics work for that world. It's just that not everyone can actively use it. Would also like to point out that having 0 HP doesn't kill you either, it merely renders you unconscious. Point of 0 PP in games is just that you're too exhausted to use any more spells. Point of 0 for PP would be where the parasite starts to have a draining effect. Think of it as you start losing HP at the rate of your natural PP regen. Once you hit 0, you lose consciousness. Once you hit -50% HP, yer dead. |
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| Nedben | Sep 28 2016, 12:24 AM Post #14 |
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♦ Mercury Sniffles ♦ A form of cold induced by offensive Mercury psynergy in low-grade but persistent quantities without a counterbalancing restorative effect, similar in symptoms to stress-induced resurgences of other diseases such as common cold. Causes include Mercury Lighthouse not being lit but standing around it anyway during the winter season, being attacked by Mercury adepts repeatedly and constantly (in addition to all the other complications that may result such as being hit by large quantities of ice, water, and weapons), and a surplus of offensively-attuned tear stones or other damaging Mercury sources in the region. It is easily cured by balancing out or counteracting the offending component, usually through the Ply or Aura psynergies or through the Water of Hermes. ♦ Overexpress ♦ Some people have trouble not babbling or shutting up without the use of physical force. Now imagine that for psynergy. Adepts with Overexpression, be it from neurological injury giving them hyperfocus and a lack of control, or having their minds directly overloaded with energy that needs to be vented, simply cannot stop channeling the elements until they run out of psynergy or violently explode trying. At first, Mercury adepts will drown or freeze the area around them, Mars adepts will burn everything within range, Jupiter adepts see overloadingly much about the truth and minds around them from the heart of an electric whirlwind storm, and Venus adepts will ensure there is considerably more ground afterward compared to before. It is usually kept to a minimum after the initial exhausting burst for those who are suffering from sustained problems, as the overexpressing Adept is left in a state of constant effort tiredness while constantly projecting very simple psynergy, leaving a light trail of their natural favored psynergy effect wherever they go as their psynergy reserves regenerate and are exhausted almost immediately. It is something you'd want Water of Hermes to cure. ♦ Psychic Parasites ♦ Imagine the problems it would cause if regular parasites could use psynergy too. As opposed to psynergetically absorptive things who simply sustain themselves with energy so looted, fungi that use Mars or Mercury powers to ensure their ideal temperature, or bacteria that use Venus-based propulsion ♦ Jupiter Sneezes ♦ A comical affliction among Jupiter adepts and Jupiter-aligned animals that occasionally causes their sneezing to involuntarily release psynergy, usually a whirlwind or electric shock, at either anything directly in front of them or in some cases themselves. It usually comes and goes with certain common sicknesses, especially if the adept in question focuses on offensive application of their psynergy without training restraint or is using items that fortify Jupiter power or unleash chance without being used to the power so given. ♦ Self-Entombing...Failure ♦ Some experienced and defensively oriented Venus adepts who are traumatized or simply really, really scared may accidentally spawn walls of rocks, plants, or other things around them on protective instinct, and often repelling or smashing it accordingly due to fear of whatever they were already afraid of, and whether or not this makes the problem worse varies. |
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| Violet Spinel | Sep 28 2016, 02:38 PM Post #15 |
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Honestly I don't quite understand the concept. Maybe I need to brush up on my alchemy but how does the existence of elements have anything to do with diseases aside from the kind of stuff that feeds off psynergy or something. The parasute thing made sense to me at first until Ms. Role was like "the worms are made of alchemical energy", huh. So, uh... what? Mr. Nedben's "illnesses" are all very comical and entertaining but they seem more like unfortunate things that happen to Adepts as an involuntary side effect of having Psynergy as opposed to actual bacteria and viruses and the likes, huh. |
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