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I feel as though I might be coming close to losing my grip on reality
Topic Started: Apr 16 2015, 09:18 PM (923 Views)
Catman
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Nothing I hadn't predicted though.

The world seems stranger than I remember, even though I've not missed anything. Things are becoming harder to understand as my own ideals make me feel differently about a lot of things compared to pretty much everyone I've spoken to.

Perhaps Catman is not fit for this world, or maybe this world is just not fit for Catman.
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I happen to find you--and I mean you, Catman or not Catman--but who you are, to be a wonderful fit for this world. It is better for your presence in it.

Our lives are certainly better for your existence in them.
Edited by Sagie, Apr 16 2015, 09:21 PM.
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Really, how? The more I think about it, the less it makes sense to me.
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In what ways do your ideals make you feel differently about things compared to most people?
Edited by Nikki, Apr 16 2015, 09:26 PM.
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The world doesn't make a sense a lot of the time, Catman, to a lot of people. I think everyone's lost, whether a little or a lot. Existence itself is really confusing, and even more so when you ask the kind of questions you're asking. But the questions you ask are some of the most important ones, I think.

Your idealism, curiosity, and determination are rare, truly they are, but that doesn't make them a negative. In fact, I'd argue such things are necessary to get anything done worthwhile in this world. Maybe some of your thoughts need more refining by testing them against the views of others. You might change some of them over time. Others you might retain til you die, and that's okay too.

Cat, you're a lovely and unique person, and as I said above (In an edit though, so you may not have caught it) our lives are the better for you being in them. You've brought joy and friendship to people in many different parts of the world, just by being yourself. ^_^ That isn't a small thing.

Keep fighting.
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Nikki
Apr 16 2015, 09:24 PM
In what ways do your ideals make you feel differently about things compared to most people?
My ideal world is one that would only be possible in fiction. But... Anarchy is bad. You don't fight people to solve problems. Vigilantism isn't a thing. It's impossible to live while only fighting. Being the best fighter doesn't even mean anything in the real world.

If I cannot strive for these things, what purpose is there in my life anymore?

I want to live a life with no regrets, but I can only regret my own existence for I'll never truly reach my goals.
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Well, why do you want to fight so bad?

Fighting in itself isn't your goal, I know it's not. You care too much about the weak and innocent for that.

There are other ways you can fight that don't involve your fists and feet. There are other ways to help the hurting that make a life worthwhile. Your problem isn't the end--it's the means.
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I want to be the best, you must know this by now.

The very best at fighting, like no one ever was.
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But why? Simply for the sake of being the best?

You can work toward being the best at fighting completely independently of what the world thinks. There's venues for that. But that's not what you're talking about here. You can fight without "solving the world's problems".
Edited by Sagie, Apr 16 2015, 09:40 PM.
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I want to be the best at something. I don't know what else to live for.

Winning tournaments is one thing, but there are millions of people who you'd never fight that way. A gold trophy doesn't make you the real best.
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Possibly, but I think it's a safe assumption that most of the people that are excellent at fighting are going to end up in those types of tournaments.

There are so many other worthy ways to live your life, ways that wouldn't be a waste at all, other than being the best at something. Tons of people live worthy lives daily, but aren't the "best" at something.
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I don't think that being the best fighter in the world is meaningless: if you can physically beat anyone else, you will have achieved that. Also, you can live from any fighting, as a professional martial artist, or a soldier, or member of a counter-terrorist unit. But I agree with you that physical fight is not the way to solve the world's most important problems these days.

What is more important for you, "being the besr fighter" or to "solve problems"?
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Sagie
Apr 16 2015, 09:45 PM
Possibly, but I think it's a safe assumption that most of the people that are excellent at fighting are going to end up in those types of tournaments.
But then when I win everything, when no one else wants to fight me what do I do? Beating up random people is no good. I'd have to go after bad people, the only people left who I can justify fighting.
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There are so many other worthy ways to live your life, ways that wouldn't be a waste at all, other than being the best at something. Tons of people live worthy lives daily, but aren't the "best" at something
If I cannot live my life the way I want to, then my life is meaningless.
Nikki
Apr 16 2015, 09:45 PM
What is more important for you, "being the besr fighter" or to "solve problems"?
I must defeat everyone ever and put an end to fighting, for the rest of time.
Edited by Catman, Apr 16 2015, 09:50 PM.
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Use your abilities for good, of course. As Nikki said above, there are ways that being a great fighter can be used to better the world. The difference between them and anarchy is that there is a measure of control used so that innocent people don't get in the way.

You can't accept that you could find meaning in other things? Would you be willing to try? Already there are obviously other things that are valuable to you.
You have a goal: to put an end to fighting, and your means to that end is to defeat everyone ever. Which is more important? Putting an end to fighting, or fighting everyone to get there?
Edited by Sagie, Apr 16 2015, 09:51 PM.
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Apr 16 2015, 09:50 PM
You can't accept that you could find meaning in other things? Would you be willing to try? Already there are obviously other things that are valuable to you.
Changing the path of my ambition would only leave me with major regret. I cannot leave this path, for all I stand for would be meaningless otherwise.
Sagie
Apr 16 2015, 09:50 PM
You have a goal: to put an end to fighting, and your means to that end is to defeat everyone ever. Which is more important? Putting an end to fighting, or fighting everyone to get there?
They would both lead to the same outcome.
Edited by Catman, Apr 16 2015, 09:54 PM.
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