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The Language Thread; Where we talk about how people talk
Topic Started: Sep 7 2014, 10:51 PM (2,314 Views)
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Dragomir: Does that mean that you live in Spain? Would you mind saying the name of the language? I'm interesting in knowing. ^_^

@Ledah: That isn't quite what I meant, but it is still pretty impressive!

@Sagie: Having access to courses for more obscure (At least, it feels a bit more obscure) languages like that sounds really cool! Even if I went to the somewhat nearby college, NMC, I'd only be able to take French or Spanish, so it is really interesting to hear that you can do that!

@Cipher: That must have been...really inconvenient. It honestly sounds like a really terrible move on the part of your parent's, I couldn't imagine why they would have done that.
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Harly: I don't live in Spain but I have a little bit of Spaniard blood in me. I'm in Texas and I know I should have taken spanish classes since that would benefit me and there are a lot of hispanics in my area. Generally the place I live in is diverse.
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Diego, I'm quite interested about why you can't translate awqward into spainish: is it a cultural thing? Like English culture is a very awqward one, so of course we have this word. I experience awkwardness often, would that feeling be quite rare in your culture? You mentioned before that your culture is better at physical contact and such.

I learned French and Spanish at school, but I've lost a lot of it, I can pick up joining words and such, but very little else. With French I always found it off putting that they use a lot of hard consonants like 't's which they don't ponounce Lin a hard way. Like in chalet for instance.
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It might be a cultural thing, when things get awkward we say that we are in an awkward situation (una situación incomoda) but thereīs no word for FEELING awkward (incomodo itīs more like uncomfortable), and if we land in an awkward situation thereīs nothing that a laugh and a joke canīt solve (or saying Iīm sorry if itīs a sensible thing like illness or death).

Or it might just be that I just donīt know the word that translates that feeling, there are a lot of words that are often unknown or unused
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@Dragomir: Ah, good to know. Of course, you have no obligation to learn Spanish just because of your roots, but yeah I can imagine that you must have had quite a few chances to learn it. There is nothing wrong with taking French instead, I don't think, and it is a pretty cool thing in its own right!
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@Diego: A bit of a odd question but were you ever on gamespot? I may know you. :P

I only speak English but I want to learn Finnish. I really love the Finnish language.
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@Dirge: I really doubt it, I rarely venture into forums anymore, and Iīm afraid Iīm not familiar with Gamespot, but I still havenīt met my doppleganger yet. Finnish sounds really complicated to me, whenever I see something written in Finnish I assume someone hit the keyboard with itīs head
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^I know what you mean. I find the language near impossible to speak, but I really like it. I like Icelandic too.
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A lot of the Nordic languages seem to have very complex and difficult pronunciations for an outsider. I feel like you'd have to live in the country for an extended period of time, maybe decades, to achieve speaking as a native would.
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Oh yeah, I would be really intimidated with trying to learn something like that.
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They're incredibly complex, I gave up on learning them really, really quick, but I just love the way they sound. Most Nordic languages have this ancient quality to them. It's like something from Skyrim.
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Today we were going over how to pronounce some words and the difference in sounds between the masculine and feminine forms of adjectives and French, and I am suddenly having a much easier time getting the spelling! I mean, I still don't get a lot of it, but things make significantly more sense now and I am much more comfortable with not completely relying on memorizing the sounds of individual words.
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That's good that it's coming together more in your head! I'm still at the point where I'm not sure how the spelled word is supposed to be pronounced (though I'm starting to get a rough idea of it). What throws a wrench into things is when two words are used together in a sentence, sometimes they will shorten or remove some syllables.
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Well I was wondering a lot what like, say, an e at the end of a word was supposed to do in terms of sounds and other stuff like that involving all of the silent letters, and I just kind of realized that the last letter seems to almost always be silent, and that the e is silent INSTEAD of what was the last letter when it is made feminine and stuff like that.

So weird letter combinations I may not get, but I am going to have an easier time with the ends of words at least and that is a lot of what was confusing me that we have dealt with so far.

I believe that they shorten/remove syllables when a word that ends with a vowel is right next to one that starts with a vowel, or something like that? My french teacher mentioned something about that today, though I am not sure that it is exactly that. But like, she showed us that "Je suis de Alabama" would end up "Je suis d'Alabama" or something like that so it feels right. However, it is only my second week so don't quote me on that. :P
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I really wouldn't mind learning French too. I like that language a lot.
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