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Alchemy; lolwut
Topic Started: Apr 1 2017, 06:11 PM (376 Views)
Nedben
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Alchemical insight: Earth and Air produce Water (alchemy well). Earth + Fire = absorbs Water, generates Air (Growth psynergy makes plants). Fire + Water = (Air + mildly Earth?) (Forge + Well creates zol clouds), all 4 = light b/c internal light elements and counteraction of specific components, no 4 = dark b/c each has dark components but psynergy itself is glowy so absorption removes light leaving dark
hmmmm


adding a pair produces one that takes in one and generates the other (growth psynergy plants take in water and cleanse air, or a hot and dry earth of volcanic flow releases volcanic gases but would absorb nearby water b/c dry, while wind and water would rain out a fire or erosion-reshape the land and redeposit sediment-impurities to make more land like a delta or moving rocks) (water + air causes lightning storm which produces energy to deposit fire but damages earth?) (fire burns earth produces water, but requires air as well?)

dominants produce opposites to synergize with by taking in neutral and symbiote's activity, leaving leftovers (fire dominant + air + fuel-earth = water, ash-earth, combusted gas smoke) (water dominant + air churns + earth charged = leads to storms which deposit energy into the earth via lightning and ignite fire, though really that could be air-earth flow alone and water simply happens to be nearby rumbling)

crystals throw everything off (jupiter air-essence crystallized produces werewolves instead of birdmen, ice is more antithet to heat-fire, venus gels and becomes lifeless, forged in but melted-disrupted by change in mars, mars-venus synergy forms flammables and high-energy materials)

adding opposites produces both symbiotes but this flow can be coerced directionally to produce more of one of the other? (Alchemy Forge generates Earth + mildly Air to raise town walls with some wispy dry clouds, but in reverse generates Air + mildly earth to amplify the clouds, lava + water = earth stones-and-ash and steam-which-is-air-ish), might be controllable by 'seeding' i.e. the bowl at the well and using more fire or an ice stone to determine whether the forge produced clouds w/ well or just walls as its own symbiote of aggress fire primacy

Thinking in flexible word-warped terms rn. Someone fix this.


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Perhaps additional components like fundament and shaping or more mundane/realistic physical laws (ignoring conservation, b/c clear gains and losses difficult to be sure of satiety w/ unclear boundaries) complexify the process?
Edited by Nedben, Apr 1 2017, 06:14 PM.
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Fun Fact: Golden Sun actually switches Earth and Air around on that image. Water and Air are considered Cold, while Earth and Fire are considered Hot.
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Thought: color symbolism while Venus normally covers a golden brown, it can be REPRESENTED by green during circumstances of extreme light or pure alchemy stuff that is so goldy you need to clarify. Because otherwise Venus and overall look alike....

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Possible: 'light of alchemy' 2 of the 3 in bright gold yellow are one and same: fundamental of light is totality by all elements, while Dark is a special kind of lacking (associated with wolves mild sync trace Jupiter in opposition to sign staked Venus and the moon symbol follows accordingly).

Umbra Clan Blados and Chalis resist Mercury yet are weak to Mars as symbol abstraction the other axis via symbiote: Mercury 'cold' attacks are their kind of lacking of thing, while Mars pure application of heat energy is energy substantiation they are weak to.
Never mind, Chalis inverts this pattern. Possibly because passion, or Blados is Mercury + Dark (note his Mercury-Jupiter green hair color) while Chalis is Mars + Dark, but they have only honed their Dark-y talents out of clan pride and let their natural resist flag? They use spells but their resistances are weird and their power is neutral mode so I cannot be sure. Possibly separate element force entirely, just not coded for it.

Possibly symbiosis is key: Venus Mars pair is Light associate: they add brightness matter and energy. Jupiter Mercury is Dark associated but less so: wolf+moon symbolism and coldness. Perhaps Wolf is a raw sign of lunar powering up of inhuman monstrosity nature (Jupiter opposes Venus which has humans as a symbol for its rulership aspect) thus Maha comment plus tougher monsters in eclipse and the volechek enhancing: what if the elemental rocks are lunar also, because the Airs Rock particles cause lycanthropy but not to what we know other Jupiter sources?

What about Darksol Gasp, being Venus while Shadow Clash is Jupiter? Rolina may have a point in that all elements can go light or dark, so they may apply only as a stacking lens effect. Can we get a compile of known light and darkness effects and powers to search out trend?

Thoughts?
Edited by Nedben, Jun 4 2017, 06:35 AM.
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